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Aug 16, 2023

One of the most useless words in the English language is "whatsoever". (None whatsoever is already none). Any other nominations for the list?

 
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powwow Aug 17, 2023

powwow?

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Tom in London
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None Aug 17, 2023

finnword1 wrote:

One of the most useless words in the English language is "whatsoever". (None whatsoever is already none). Any other nominations for the list?


No words are useless. Given a suitable context, any word can be the "mot juste".


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Zea_Mays
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experience Aug 17, 2023

jolly word for almost everything.

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Kay Denney
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. Aug 17, 2023

Irregardless.

Mind you, at a job I had last century, I and a colleague were conspiring at one point and we used it as a code word on phone calls to say "please disregard anything I might say beyond this point because the boss has just walked in".


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Tom in London
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Kay Denney wrote:

Irregardless.

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Of course if a "word" isn't actually a word, you can get around this prescription. "Irregardless" is not a word and never has been.

To which the Wittgensteinian part of me retorts "define what a word is".

So I'm asking: what is a word?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gc4QTqslN4

[Edited at 2023-08-17 08:51 GMT]


 
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Webster says Aug 17, 2023

Webster says irregardless is a word... but it's a non-standard word. Still, interesting that the word is over 200 years old.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

irregardless


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Tom in London
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òpidubvè97r Aug 17, 2023

òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.

[Edited at 2023-08-17 09:26 GMT]


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Matthias Brombach
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If it... Aug 17, 2023

Tom in London wrote:

òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.

[Edited at 2023-08-17 09:26 GMT]

...bears a commonly acknowledged notion, yes. If not, then not.

[Bearbeitet am 2023-08-17 11:35 GMT]


 
Tom in London
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Who says? Aug 17, 2023

Matthias Brombach wrote:

Tom in London wrote:

òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.

[Edited at 2023-08-17 09:26 GMT]

...bears a common acknowledged notion, yes. If not, then not.


Who says?


 
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Who proves it? Aug 17, 2023

Tom in London wrote:

Matthias Brombach wrote:

Tom in London wrote:

òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.

[Edited at 2023-08-17 09:26 GMT]

...bears a common acknowledged notion, yes. If not, then not.


Who says?


You. You have to prove that òpidubvè97r is also a word with a commonly acknowledged notion and others would have to confirm.


 
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Tom in London wrote:

òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.


It could be passed off as a password, so at least in that sense, it's a word. On the other hand, now it's been published, it wouldn't be a good idea to use it as a password, so its practical use is past time. We can still pass our time debating it, though, as a sort of pastime.


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Meow Aug 17, 2023

Baran Keki wrote:

powwow?


Meowwow? My cat thinks it's a word. Can feline words puss-ibly count as words?

[Edited at 2023-08-17 12:13 GMT]


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Matthias Brombach
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Pasty Aug 17, 2023

Thomas T. Frost wrote:

Tom in London wrote:

òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.


It could be passed off as a password, so at least in that sense, it's a word. On the other hand, now it's been published, it wouldn't be a good idea to use it as a password, so its practical use is past time. We can still pass our time debating it, though, as a sort of pastime.


I would suggest using it as a word for a future pasty rather than as a password. If we agree, we have a word and you'll have my word that it is a word, commonly agreed and acknowledged as such and with a meaning. A password hasn't a meaning, it is only an assembly of characters for a fixed purpose and not for communication.


 
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Not really Aug 17, 2023

Matthias Brombach wrote:

Tom in London wrote:

Matthias Brombach wrote:

Tom in London wrote:

òpidubvè97r is also a word. Tell me it isn't.

[Edited at 2023-08-17 09:26 GMT]

...bears a common acknowledged notion, yes. If not, then not.


Who says?


You. You have to prove that òpidubvè97r is also a word with a commonly acknowledged notion and others would have to confirm.


A word needs to have a meaning. So what you wrote does not qualify.


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