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Fishy Email | Scam under Adecco's name
Thread poster: Lucie Genot
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida  Identity Verified
Portugal
Local time: 13:49
Member (2007)
English to Portuguese
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@Mariko Jul 14, 2023

I've just received a message like yours, but curiously enough the IP address is not the same. Needless to say that it went directly to the bin...

[ProZ.com mail] Are you available for article translation job?

A ProZ.com user visited your ProZ.com profile and sent the following message.
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July 18

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Author: Leonardo Greco
[NOTE: The author is not a registered
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I've just received a message like yours, but curiously enough the IP address is not the same. Needless to say that it went directly to the bin...

[ProZ.com mail] Are you available for article translation job?

A ProZ.com user visited your ProZ.com profile and sent the following message.
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July 18

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Author: Leonardo Greco
[NOTE: The author is not a registered ProZ.com user or was not logged in when sending this message.]
Author's IP address: 172.99.190.215
Message type: Request for quote
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Aymen Ben Ajmia
 
Elena Feriani
Elena Feriani
Italy
Local time: 14:49
Member
French to Italian
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Name change? I got a similar message. Jul 14, 2023

I was contacted twice already by "Mr. Greco" and I've just received this:


Are you available for translation?

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Author: Ludwig von Klenze
[NOTE: The author is not a registered ProZ.com user or was not logged in when sending this message.]
Author's IP address: 179.43.182.186


Hopefully people see this thread and exercise caution!

[Edited at 2023-07-14 12:16 GMT]


Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida  Identity Verified
Portugal
Local time: 13:49
Member (2007)
English to Portuguese
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Name change? Not the same IP address... Jul 14, 2023

Me too, I received a few minutes ago this msssage:

Are you available for translation?

Ludwig von Klenze via ProZ.com
11:57 (há 13 minutos)

A ProZ.com user visited your ProZ.com profile and sent the following message.
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Are you available for translation?

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Author: Ludwig von Klenze
[NOTE: The author is not a registered ProZ.com user or was
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Me too, I received a few minutes ago this msssage:

Are you available for translation?

Ludwig von Klenze via ProZ.com
11:57 (há 13 minutos)

A ProZ.com user visited your ProZ.com profile and sent the following message.
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Are you available for translation?

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Author: Ludwig von Klenze
[NOTE: The author is not a registered ProZ.com user or was not logged in when sending this message.]
Author's IP address: 89.163.144.230
Message type: Request for quote
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Elena Feriani
 
Chiara Balboni
Chiara Balboni  Identity Verified
Italy
Local time: 14:49
Member (2012)
English to Italian
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I received the same scam email today Jul 14, 2023

Same scam emails, one from "Leonardo Greco", the other one from "Ludwig von Klenze".
Beware!


Lucie Genot
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
 
Brice Fiquemo
Brice Fiquemo  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 16:49
Italian to French
+ ...
Received the same just like one hour ago from a said Ludwig von Klenze Jul 14, 2023

Received the same just like one hour ago from a said Ludwig von Klenze. Offering me a huge amount of newspaper articles to translate. In exchange he asks 1) for my bank account details to "send me money to
buy the required software" necessary to send the translation to the targeted audience....

Beware.......


Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Aymen Ben Ajmia
 
Chloe Pellegrin
Chloe Pellegrin  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:49
Member (2013)
English to French
He's getting better Jul 17, 2023

I gave him the benefit of the doubt as I received the email from addeco and the domain seemed genuine (I didn't know how to check from provenance). And dodgy English and an abrupt manner is the language of many of my project managers! He's got a whole website set up to 'download software from'. If you register with your name he comes back to you asking for a photo ID etc. Er, no thank you. But now I'm thinking he's got quite a bit of information about me, although hopefully nothing he can use to... See more
I gave him the benefit of the doubt as I received the email from addeco and the domain seemed genuine (I didn't know how to check from provenance). And dodgy English and an abrupt manner is the language of many of my project managers! He's got a whole website set up to 'download software from'. If you register with your name he comes back to you asking for a photo ID etc. Er, no thank you. But now I'm thinking he's got quite a bit of information about me, although hopefully nothing he can use to get money, and I don't like it. I know we give this information freely to agencies etc, but now it's in the wrong hands I'm wondering what he can do with it.

It's a pretty slick scam, the best I've seen and targeting translators specifically, which is a worry.

Can we put a warning on the Blue Board by registering him under Adecco?
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Natalie
Natalie  Identity Verified
Poland
Local time: 14:49
Member (2002)
English to Russian
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Public note at the BB Jul 17, 2023

Chloe Pellegrin wrote:
Can we put a warning on the Blue Board by registering him under Adecco?


Scammer profiles may not be linked to the BB records of genuine entities. There is, however, a public note at Adecco's record with a warning about impersonators.


Yolanda Broad
 
Jörgen Winther
Jörgen Winther  Identity Verified
Sweden
Local time: 14:49
Member (2023)
English to Danish
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Was happening in 2021 too Jul 21, 2023

Hi all,

I just stumbled over this previous forum thread - about a different person but the same scam:

The link seems to mess things up here so try to search the forum for "adecco widmer"

Or check this overview of 2021 scams:

https://proz.papyrs.com/@knowledgebase/Archived-Scam-Alerts-2021?qsel=listverse
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Hi all,

I just stumbled over this previous forum thread - about a different person but the same scam:

The link seems to mess things up here so try to search the forum for "adecco widmer"

Or check this overview of 2021 scams:

https://proz.papyrs.com/@knowledgebase/Archived-Scam-Alerts-2021?qsel=listverse

And in 2016 too, if you study the forum further. Maybe there are even more examples with different search words.

Hmm... when will we ever learn?



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Thomas T. Frost
Thomas T. Frost  Identity Verified
Portugal
Local time: 13:49
Danish to English
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Names not worth remembering Jul 21, 2023

It is pointless to try to remember or record the alleged names and Gmail addresses of scammers, as the names would nearly all be fake, and they can create new Gmail addresses faster than they can be recorded.

What sort of idiot would commit crime in public using their real name? 'Hey, my name is Joe Criminal and I'm here to steal your money. If you report me to the police, don't forget to give them my name.'

The things to remember are the mode of operation and all the l
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It is pointless to try to remember or record the alleged names and Gmail addresses of scammers, as the names would nearly all be fake, and they can create new Gmail addresses faster than they can be recorded.

What sort of idiot would commit crime in public using their real name? 'Hey, my name is Joe Criminal and I'm here to steal your money. If you report me to the police, don't forget to give them my name.'

The things to remember are the mode of operation and all the little warning signs, which are essentially everything that diverges from usual client behaviour.
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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Dan Lucas
 
Mónica Algazi
Mónica Algazi  Identity Verified
Uruguay
Local time: 09:49
Member (2005)
English to Spanish
Here we go again Aug 21, 2023

Hello, mighty Prozians,
This is what I received this morning (Monday, 21st August):
Phillip Fleischer
9:12 AM (1 hour ago)
to me


Hello. Thank you for your reply to our job post about translation from
English to German, from English to French, from English to Spanish, from
English to Dutch.
Kindly be informed that an article translation job is available, and we
have articles to be translated on a regular basis. Kindly let us k
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Hello, mighty Prozians,
This is what I received this morning (Monday, 21st August):
Phillip Fleischer
9:12 AM (1 hour ago)
to me


Hello. Thank you for your reply to our job post about translation from
English to German, from English to French, from English to Spanish, from
English to Dutch.
Kindly be informed that an article translation job is available, and we
have articles to be translated on a regular basis. Kindly let us know
whether you are available for the job.
Also please submit your rates again.
Thank you.
Kind regards

--
Phillip Fleischer
CEO
Listverse.

I did a bit of research, and the Chief Executive Officer of Listverse (not 'listverses') is Jamie Frater.
Isn't this sad?
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Jasna Michalak
Desiree Davidse
Silvia Contreras
 
O G V
O G V
Spain
Member (2006)
French to Spanish
+ ...
Same message today Aug 21, 2023

Hi guys
I received same message than Mónica from this Phillip.
I answered back and now I researched for their profile details and arrived to this thread.
Is good to share all these info and make our bests to avoid these scammers.
Regards
OGV
imagen_2023-08-21_162310713


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Natalie
Natalie  Identity Verified
Poland
Local time: 14:49
Member (2002)
English to Russian
+ ...

MODERATOR
SITE LOCALIZER
Hello folks Aug 21, 2023

Where are the IPs? Where is the email address???

 
Daniela Spinoza
Daniela Spinoza
Argentina
Local time: 09:49
Member (2018)
English to Spanish
+ ...
I received the same message Aug 21, 2023

I received the same message earlier today. Listverses is not a member of the Blueboard and in the search section I couldn't find any job posts related to this project.

Hope it helps!

On Mon, Aug 21, 2023, 09:36 Phillip Fleischer wrote:
Hello. Thank you for your reply to our job post about translation from
English to German, from English to French, from English to Spanish, from
English to Dutch.
Kindly be informed that an article translation job
... See more
I received the same message earlier today. Listverses is not a member of the Blueboard and in the search section I couldn't find any job posts related to this project.

Hope it helps!

On Mon, Aug 21, 2023, 09:36 Phillip Fleischer wrote:
Hello. Thank you for your reply to our job post about translation from
English to German, from English to French, from English to Spanish, from
English to Dutch.
Kindly be informed that an article translation job is available, and we
have articles to be translated on a regular basis. Kindly let us know
whether you are available for the job.
Also please submit your rates again.
Thank you.
Kind regards


--
Phillip Fleischer
CEO
Listverse.
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Daniela Spinoza
Daniela Spinoza
Argentina
Local time: 09:49
Member (2018)
English to Spanish
+ ...
Email address Aug 21, 2023

Natalie wrote:

Where are the IPs? Where is the email address???


 
O G V
O G V
Spain
Member (2006)
French to Spanish
+ ...
These are the details I have by now, thanks, Natalie! Aug 21, 2023

Natalie wrote:

Where are the IPs? Where is the email address???


The original post job appears to be this
https://www.proz.com/job/2020112

After my quotation the poster added two notes:
imagen_2023-08-22_082056971

I tend to believe is the same person that sent the email pretending to be Phillip Fleischer

I hope this is info is accurate and useful

OGV



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