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Thread poster: Antonio Berbel Garcia
Antonio Berbel Garcia
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Jun 11, 2023

Is it possible to say in this transformation exercise
1. Yvonne always ignores her boss’s instructions completely.
Yvonne always takes _____________________________________________________________
Yvonne always takes her boss's instructions for granted completely.
I think the correct one should 'completely for granted'?
Could you help, please?
 
Kevin Fulton
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Completely for granted Jun 12, 2023

To my American ears.

>Yvonne always ignores her boss’s instructions completely.
Yvonne always **completely** ignores her boss’s instructions.
Works for me also.

Philip Lees
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philgoddard
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I don't understand this Jun 12, 2023

What does "takes her boss's instructions for granted" mean?
I'm not clear what a transformation exercise is, or what you're supposed to be doing.

[Edited at 2023-06-12 08:50 GMT]

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Tom in London
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Rule Jun 12, 2023

Kevin Fulton wrote:

To my American ears.

>Yvonne always ignores her boss’s instructions completely.
Yvonne always **completely** ignores her boss’s instructions.
Works for me also.


I don't know if it's a hard and fast rule, but I usually think it's better (i.e. clearer/more explicit) to put an adverb *before* the verb to which it refers.

So:
Yvonne always **completely** ignores her boss’s instructions.

But:
Yvonne always takes her boss's instructions completely for granted.



[Edited at 2023-06-12 16:50 GMT]

Helena Chavarria
 
Sadek_A
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FAIL Jun 12, 2023

philgoddard wrote:

What does "takes her boss's instructions for granted" mean?
I'm not clear what a transformation exercise is, or what you're supposed to be doing.

[Edited at 2023-06-12 08:50 GMT]


That student will fail the exercise for sure, as the proposed sentence suggests that she does actually follow said instructions.

***Yvonne always takes (her boss’s instructions // instructions of/by her boss) (completely/entirely) (lightly // in/with complete/entire disregard/negligence/indifference).

Can't really see how an American ear accepts the proposed sentence!
 
Christopher Schröder
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Bold Jun 13, 2023

Tom in London wrote:
I don't know if it's a hard and fast rule, but I usually think it's better (i.e. clearer/more explicit) to put an adverb *before* the verb to which it refers.

Even when it’s to boldly go?

Tony Keily
 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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@Phil Jun 13, 2023

A transformation exercise is an exercise where learners are given one sentence and need to complete a second sentence so that it means the same. The second sentence usually has a prompt.
https://www.teachingenglish.org.uk/professional-development/teachers/knowing-subject/t-w/transformation-exercise

Kevin Fulton
 
MollyRose
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idiom Jun 14, 2023

Yvonne always takes her boss's instructions with a grain of salt.

I don't know if this is what you are looking for. It isn't an exact meaning of the original sentence.
 
Tony Keily
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More of the same Jun 16, 2023

Here's a link to other people wrestling with the same sentence (and another sentence featuring something called 'Christams pudding'): https://www.ang.pl/forum/pomoc-jezykowa/2033.

Their suggestion is 'Yvonne takes no notice of her boss's instructions.'

But why not go the whole hog and transform the thing completely (or completely transform the thing): 'Yvonne takes ... See more
Here's a link to other people wrestling with the same sentence (and another sentence featuring something called 'Christams pudding'): https://www.ang.pl/forum/pomoc-jezykowa/2033.

Their suggestion is 'Yvonne takes no notice of her boss's instructions.'

But why not go the whole hog and transform the thing completely (or completely transform the thing): 'Yvonne takes please in listening to her vinyl-only Extreme Noise Terror collection at top volume. Unsurprisingly, this has led to sensorineural hearing loss and a total inability to follow her boss's instructions when not delivered via flash cards.' ▲ Collapse
 


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