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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

balsámico de laurel

English translation:

balsamic bay leaf overtones

Added to glossary by Justin Peterson
May 13, 2020 18:35
3 yrs ago
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Spanish term

balsámico de laurel

Spanish to English Other Wine / Oenology / Viticulture wine
Nota de Cata (wine)
Nariz: Franca de Albariño (balsámico de laurel)

Does that even make sense?
balsámico de laurel?
You will find "laurel balsamic" ... on Spanish sites full of Spanglish
Proposed translations (English)
4 balsamic bay leaf overtones
4 +3 Franca nose Albariño (balsamic bay)
4 with balsamic laurel notes
References
Balsamic

Discussion

Justin Peterson (asker) May 13, 2020:
You're right ... it's gotta be all about the oil Yes ... I suppose they just mean that its scent is like balsamic olive oil seasoned with laurel
Amadeo Pinto May 13, 2020:
Suggestion Since the term seems to come up mostly in olive oil infused with laurel, which this isn't, for wines I'd go with either "laurel notes" or "hints of laurel".

Proposed translations

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balsamic bay leaf overtones

Laurel = bay leaf - it may sound more tempting to some peole.

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Note added at 1 day 21 hrs (2020-05-15 16:22:48 GMT)
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Or "balsamic nose with a hint of bay leaf..." The main thing with wine desciptions is not to end up in "Pseuds' Corner":

https://www.lexico.com/definition/pseud's_corner

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"Balsamic overones with a hint of bay leaf..." etc.
Note from asker:
A noble thought, but what wine tasting report does not bask in Pseuds' Corner? ;)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "That'll work, thanks"
44 mins

with balsamic laurel notes

Otra opción.
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Franca nose Albariño (balsamic bay)

Laurel is what we call in English "Bay leaf" or "Bay Leaves, quite aromatic, used in cooking through the Mediterranean but especially in Spain, so based on this I did a search and came up with the following:

See first review

https://www.drinksandco.com/rias-baixas-wine/santiago-roma-a...

In understanding wine tasting you'll see that bay leaf/leaves is actually a thing...

https://www.decanter.com/learn/advice/understand-tasting-not...

Re Albariño its aromatic blend of loganberry, cinnamon, mint and bay leaf."

See also

A return to the origin of Albariño production in wooden barrels. ... aromatic herbs (bay leaf, coppice),
www.angelsequeiros.com › galician-white-wine-foudre


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See also

The grape's name derives from the name of the laurel bush, and its scent and flavor is indeed reminescent of laurel (think “bay leaf”)—

https://thatusefulwinesite.com/varietals/whites/Loureiro.php

I'd say bay leaf is more commonly used than laurel for describing wine in English sites as seen with the wine you mention specifically

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See also

They aren't all from France. ... of sour cherries and plums, enriched by notes of sage, bay leaf and clove, and a refreshing bitterness and acidity.

https://www.eater.com/drinks/2016/5/20/11713332/natural-wine...

Grenache, Syrah, Mourvèdre. Old vines, a minimum of 25 years. Intense bright purple. Seductive nose of small red fruits, but also coriander and bay leaf.

https://www.matthewclark.co.uk/products/wine/?SearchTerm=&Co...
Example sentence:

Albariño from Rías Baixas: Your Go-To Summer Wine ... lemon, white apricot and fresh herbs, with orange peel and subtle bay leaf adding depth at the end.

Reference:

amateurgastronomer.com › index › tag › albarino

http://https://cahnandfinlay.co.nz/products/quinta-de-couselo-turonia-albarino-2016

Peer comment(s):
agree Paulina Sobelman
12 hrs
agree neilmac : "Bay leaf" may seem more appealing to some consumers (I tend to associate laurel with ancient Rome)...
13 hrs
agree Elizabeth Joy Pitt de Morales : Agree with "bay leaf", but what is "franca" doing there? It's a Spanish word.
18 hrs
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Reference comments

1 day 10 hrs
Reference:

Balsamic

Re it referring to spiced wood aromas associated with balsam — an aromatic resin exuded by certain trees


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Also https://www.bourgogne-wines.com/tasting-advice/wines-and-aro... (albeit a French site), but there are others.

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This Larousse link also mentions Bay https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=N8ZWDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT571&lp...

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Sorry - the original link was the decanterchina one which has now slipped to the bottom
Reference:

http://https://www.decanterchina.com/en/knowledge/trivia/tasting-notes-decoded-bergamot-prune-geranium-and-balsamic

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