Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
abstrahieren
English translation:
to abstract / prescind (take the essence of a body of text)
Added to glossary by
Gauri Shringarpure
Nov 8, 2007 18:05
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German term
abstrahieren
German to English
Marketing
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I know abstrahieren means abstract. But that won't work here. Any ideas in this context? Would conceptualize work?
TIA
Context: marketing text on services offered by a mobile communications company.
Sentence:
Die unterschiedlichen Bedürfnisse des Einzelnen verlangen dabei massgeschneiderte Lösungen. Wir bieten sie, indem wir *abstrahieren*, komplexe Probleme zerlegen und gemeinsame Nenner erkennen. Von der Industrielösung bis zum Unterhaltungsportal: Wir liefern qualitativ hochstehende und individuell angepasste Lösungen.
TIA
Context: marketing text on services offered by a mobile communications company.
Sentence:
Die unterschiedlichen Bedürfnisse des Einzelnen verlangen dabei massgeschneiderte Lösungen. Wir bieten sie, indem wir *abstrahieren*, komplexe Probleme zerlegen und gemeinsame Nenner erkennen. Von der Industrielösung bis zum Unterhaltungsportal: Wir liefern qualitativ hochstehende und individuell angepasste Lösungen.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | abstract / prescind |
Gauri Shringarpure
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| 4 | analyze or conceptualize |
Dr. Fred Thomson
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| 3 | simplifying |
Amphyon
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| 3 | extract the essence (if a case or issue) |
Ken Cox
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Nov 13, 2007 17:20: Gauri Shringarpure Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Gauri Shringarpure
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Technical linguistic & cultural accuracy
Native in: English 
Works in: Marathi to English, Hindi to English, German to English, and 1 more.
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abstract / prescind
Hi Suzie,
I'd still go with abstract here - it's the secondary meaning of the word, which means to single out / sort / draw out the core meaning/essence.
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I see what you mean, Suzie - I often follow the rule, "when in doubt, don't!" :)
I'd still go with abstract here - it's the secondary meaning of the word, which means to single out / sort / draw out the core meaning/essence.
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I see what you mean, Suzie - I often follow the rule, "when in doubt, don't!" :)
Note from asker:
| I dunno...somehow I have a rough time with "abstracting" in this case. Sounds a bit weird to me...that's why I'm still considering conceptualizing instead... |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Ken Cox
: sorry, I overlooked that you had given essentially the same paraprhase -- but IMO 'abstract' is not commonly used as a verb in English
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That's alright. Why would you say abstract isn't a common verb? In fact, I suspect abstrahieren here might be taken from the English at another point of time. In any case I agree, if there's a simpler term with the same meaning, it should be used. Thx, K!
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks, Gauri! After giving this due thought, I eventually went with a combination of yours and Ken's answer and chose "abstracting the essence"...."
55 mins
simplifying
...why not?
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Carmen Archouniani
: i like it.
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Thanks, Carmen.
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Gauri Shringarpure
: wouldn't necessarily mean abstracting, IMO. It's possible to simplify keeping the current length & to abstract keeping the complexity.Much as it precedes "komplexe Probleme...", it's a standalone phrase and isn't 'simplifying' complex problems, IMO.
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extract the essence (if a case or issue)
Not quite the same, but IMO 'abstract' is only used in as a verb in the sense intended here (to arrive at a sort of general principle or the like by abstraction from specific instances) in mathematics and perhaps philosophy.
Of course, you could also paraphrase it as above.
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*of* a case or issue
Of course, you could also paraphrase it as above.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2007-11-08 20:46:33 GMT)
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*of* a case or issue
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Dr. Fred Thomson
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
A lawyer, technician, nuclear power optr
Native in: English
Works in: German to English
Related KudoZ points
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34
analyze or conceptualize
Works for me
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