Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

E/P V

English translation:

VCDR (vertical cup-to-disk ratio)

Added to glossary by David Brown
Dec 5, 2019 19:41
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Spanish term

E/P V

Spanish to English Medical Medical (general) Ophthalmology
This from an eye examination report and as always am stumped for the meaning of the abbreviations
Segmento posterior
Right Eye Left Eye
Size Large Large
E/P V 0.8 0.9

Discussion

Chema Nieto Castañón Dec 5, 2019:
Hola, David.
El valor de excavación/papila es un índice, no un volumen propiamente. Tus referencias son dudosas en todo caso. Tu segundo enlace lleva al título de un artículo original sueco ("... measuring the volume of papillary excavations") que aparece como referencia en un artículo original japonés. El primero he sido incapaz de localizarlo, pero su validez para el caso que nos ocupa parece limitada. Además, si te fijas en el primer enlace en respuesta, E/P, E/Pv y volumen de excavación son tres parámetros diferentes.

Si a ti te sirve, por mí ok. Tengo curiosidad por saber cómo has traducido ISNT en la otra pregunta que cerraste antes de obtener respuestas...


podríamos encontrarnos perfectamente una papila sana con una excavación más grande y profunda de lo normal (p. ej. E/P=0.7).
http://areaprofesional.blogspot.com/2011/08/papila-sana-vs-p...

Joseph Tein Dec 5, 2019:
Closing and grading The KudoZ instructions say to choose the best possible answer provided rather than closing without grading. You do have a "best possible" (and correct) answer.
David Brown (asker) Dec 5, 2019:
E/P V I was just about to close the question, having found a reasonable reference for volume of the papillary excavation as it does have a figure (0.8 and 0.9)
OCT & Optic nerve - Laboratoires Théa
https://www.laboratoires-thea.com › oct_and_optic_nerve_thea_website
Page 100. - Toxic optic neuropathy with papillary and macular impairment. Page 102 ...... One can also expect that the excavation volume is smaller in AION35.
Second International Visual Field Symposium, Tübingen, 19-22 ...
https://books.google.es › books
Erik L. Greve - 1977 - ‎Medical
8 illustrates the superposed grating images on the papillary and retinal surfaces. ... A photographic method for measuring the volume of papillary excavation.

Proposed translations

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VCDR (vertical cup-to-disk ratio)

Diría que el original E/P se refiere al ratio excavación/papila. El E/Pv podría hacer referencia a la excavación/papila vertical. Ver pej.,

Los parámetros papilares evaluados por el SD-OCT, área del anillo neuro-retiniano, índice promedio excavación/papila (E/P), excavación/papila vertical (E/Pv) y volumen de la excavación...
http://areaprofesional.blogspot.com/2011/08/papila-sana-vs-p...


En inglés parece expresarse como Cup-to-disk ratio (CDR), y el E/Pv como vertical cup to disk ratio (VCDR).

Cup to disk ratio
https://books.google.es/books?id=QCiYzVJYfQoC&pg=PA57&lpg=PA...

VCDR
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...


No obstante, tal y como expresado (E/P V versus E/Pv) me genera ciertas dudas, aunque no se me ocurre a qué otra cosa pueda hacer referencia esa "V" en este contexto.

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Note added at 2 days 4 hrs (2019-12-08 00:19:16 GMT)
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No problem, David.
As for ISNT, it makes sense that the original Spanish conveys the "regla del ISNT", but I cannot quite understand what follows ( I I S ), but that may just be that we are not properly seeing the original chart.

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Note added at 4 days (2019-12-10 11:37:16 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you for clarifying the I / IS in your report!
Note from asker:
my apologies for being so hasty in dismissing your answer. (I was under pressure for personal reasons). I found a useful reference that mentions "papillae excavation as (“cup” Anglo-Saxon)" thus, in my opinion, giving me a link between E/P V and your answer VCDR. I will try to un-close the question.
ISNT stands for Inferior Superior Nasal Temporal The ISNT Rule and Differentiation of Normal From ... https://jamanetwork.com › journals › jamaophthalmology › fullarticle by N Harizman - ‎2006 - ‎Cited by 185 - ‎Related articles The neuroretinal rim in normal eyes shows a characteristic configuration. It is usually broadest in the inferior rim, followed by the superior and nasal rims, and thinnest in the temporal disc region. This pattern of rim width is known as the ISNT rule (inferior ≥ superior ≥ nasal ≥ temporal).
I = inferior and I S = Imferior and Superior This pattern of rim width is known as the ISNT rule (inferior ≥ superior ≥ nasal ≥ temporal). The ISNT rule was originally described after assessment of optic disc photographs of 457 normal eyes3and is often used in clinical practice to help detect early glaucomatous optic neuropathy.
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