Glossary entry (derived from question below)
srpski term or phrase:
fakultativne nastavne aktivnosti
engleski translation:
optional/elective noncompulsory (school) activities/courses
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Veronica Prpic Uhing
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srpski term
fakultativne nastavne aktivnosti
srpski na engleski
Biznis/finansije
Obrazovanje / pedagogija
srednja skola
Radi se o Svedočanstvu završenog razreda srednje škole - navađaju se nastavni predmeti i fakultativne nastavne aktivnosti
Dali je to - Faculty of Continuing Education
Dali je to - Faculty of Continuing Education
Proposed translations
(engleski)
4 +4 | optional/elective noncompulsory (school) activities/courses | V&M Stanković |
5 +6 | extracurricular activities | Marina Jovanovic |
Proposed translations
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optional/elective noncompulsory (school) activities/courses
Kod nas su fakultativni predmeti (i aktivnosti) izborni, ali nisu obavezni – pa mislim da to mora da se naglasi da ne bi bilo zabune.
fakultativan predmet > optional/elective course
(Ignjatić Z. et al., Rečnik, izd. Istitut za strane jezike, Beograd, 2000.)
fakultativan > optional; ~vni kursevi elective courses
(Morton Benson Dictionary)
- optional > “Music is an optional extra (= a thing you can choose to have or not, but must pay more for if you have it) at our school.”
- elective (especially AmE) > a course or subject at a college or school which a student can choose to do: “Students can choose from a range of electives offered by the science department.”
(Oxford Dictionary)
“TOKAI UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF POLITICAL SCIENCE AND ECONOMICS
...
Our department consists,in this context of three courses of noncompulsory nature:Course of Political Science,Course of Local Administration and Course of International Politics,all courses intended for the self-realization of each student willing to act purposefully in his or her field of social activities.”
(http://read.jst.go.jp/ddbs/plsql/KKN_EG_14?code=2224011501)
“University of Alberta
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Any compulsory course failed must be repeated, and any noncompulsory course failed may be repeated.”
(http://www.registrar.ualberta.ca/calendar/index.cfm?show=96)
A evo još malo tekstova koji objašnjavaju pojam fakultativne nastave (Min. prosvjete i nauke Crne Gore):
“Prava i obaveze učenika u devetogodišnjoj osnovnoj školi
...
Škola je dužna da, u okviru svojih mogućnosti, za učenike organizuje prošireni program. Prošireni program obuhvata: produženi boravak, jutarnje čuvanje, slobodne aktivnosti, fakultativnu nastavu i školu u prirodi.
...
Škola može organizovati fakultativnu nastavu iz pojedinih predmeta, u skladu sa ovim zakonom. Fakultativna nastava je obavezna za sve učenike koji se za nju opredijele. Ocjene iz fakultativne nastave (predmeta) ne utiču na opšti uspjeh učenika.
(http://www.osim.cg.yu/fosi_rom_cg/download/obr_informator.pd...
“OSNOVE ZA OBNOVU NASTAVNIH PLANOVA I PROGRAMA
...
9. Princip uvođenja raznolikosti oblika pedagoške komunikacije
Novi nastavni planovi i programi definisaće obavezne, fakultativne, izborne i interdisciplinarne nastavne predmete.
...
Kod svakog predmeta treba predvidjeti obavezne, izborne i fakultativne programe i vidove nastave, pri čemu su veoma poželjne i zajedničke aktivnosti u okviru dva ili više predmeta. Ovim treba afirmisati što je moguće veću koordinaciju u radu nastavnika...”
(http://www.cccg-edu.cg.yu/cg/Savjet/Files/Osnove - Savjet 20...
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NAPOMENA: molim za izvinjenje - već treći put šaljem isto i uvek je rezultat ovakav - neki delovi ponovljeni, pomešano; nadam se da ćete se ipak nekako snaći, više ne smem da pokušavam.
fakultativan predmet > optional/elective course
(Ignjatić Z. et al., Rečnik, izd. Istitut za strane jezike, Beograd, 2000.)
fakultativan > optional; ~vni kursevi elective courses
(Morton Benson Dictionary)
- optional > “Music is an optional extra (= a thing you can choose to have or not, but must pay more for if you have it) at our school.”
- elective (especially AmE) > a course or subject at a college or school which a student can choose to do: “Students can choose from a range of electives offered by the science department.”
(Oxford Dictionary)
“TOKAI UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF POLITICAL SCIENCE AND ECONOMICS
...
Our department consists,in this context of three courses of noncompulsory nature:Course of Political Science,Course of Local Administration and Course of International Politics,all courses intended for the self-realization of each student willing to act purposefully in his or her field of social activities.”
(http://read.jst.go.jp/ddbs/plsql/KKN_EG_14?code=2224011501)
“University of Alberta
...
Any compulsory course failed must be repeated, and any noncompulsory course failed may be repeated.”
(http://www.registrar.ualberta.ca/calendar/index.cfm?show=96)
A evo još malo tekstova koji objašnjavaju pojam fakultativne nastave (Min. prosvjete i nauke Crne Gore):
“Prava i obaveze učenika u devetogodišnjoj osnovnoj školi
...
Škola je dužna da, u okviru svojih mogućnosti, za učenike organizuje prošireni program. Prošireni program obuhvata: produženi boravak, jutarnje čuvanje, slobodne aktivnosti, fakultativnu nastavu i školu u prirodi.
...
Škola može organizovati fakultativnu nastavu iz pojedinih predmeta, u skladu sa ovim zakonom. Fakultativna nastava je obavezna za sve učenike koji se za nju opredijele. Ocjene iz fakultativne nastave (predmeta) ne utiču na opšti uspjeh učenika.
(http://www.osim.cg.yu/fosi_rom_cg/download/obr_informator.pd...
“OSNOVE ZA OBNOVU NASTAVNIH PLANOVA I PROGRAMA
...
9. Princip uvođenja raznolikosti oblika pedagoške komunikacije
Novi nastavni planovi i programi definisaće obavezne, fakultativne, izborne i interdisciplinarne nastavne predmete.
...
Kod svakog predmeta treba predvidjeti obavezne, izborne i fakultativne programe i vidove nastave, pri čemu su veoma poželjne i zajedničke aktivnosti u okviru dva ili više predmeta. Ovim treba afirmisati što je moguće veću koordinaciju u radu nastavnika...”
(http://www.cccg-edu.cg.yu/cg/Savjet/Files/Osnove - Savjet 20...
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Note added at 7 hrs 24 mins (2004-12-03 23:02:45 GMT)
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NAPOMENA: molim za izvinjenje - već treći put šaljem isto i uvek je rezultat ovakav - neki delovi ponovljeni, pomešano; nadam se da ćete se ipak nekako snaći, više ne smem da pokušavam.
Peer comment(s):
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Mirjana Gacanovic
: mozda bi rjesenje bilo "optional curricula", ima mnogo referenci na webu
11 h
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hvala, slažem se - ima i drugih mogućnosti, samo je važno da se ne izgubi osnovni smisao: fakultativno, tj. izborno i neobavezno, ali i nastavno - kako traži "asker"
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Pavle Perencevic
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hvala, izgleda da je ovde osnovni problem, pa i tolike dileme i rasprave, zbog (ne)poznavanja pojmova nastavno/vannastavo i obavezno/fakultativno u našem školstvu
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Vuk Vujosevic
2 dana 14 h
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hvala
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maja brown
: problem je kad se pojave dve rubrike na istom svedočanstvu, naime izborna i fakultativni
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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33 min
extracurricular activities
Koliko znam, ovo je jedini izraz za takve stvari, a ukljucuje svasta, od dramskih, debatnih i politickih klubova preko navijacica i orkestra do pomoci starijima odredjene zajednice.
http://www.madison.k12.wi.us/west/activity.htm
"Not all extracurricular activities are offered every year. These activities include:
*Amnesty International *Anime Club *Asian Club *AV Assistant *Chess Club*Men's and Women's Choirs *Class Council*Class Officers *Commencement Speakers *Crime Stoppers *Dance Courts*Debate Club *DECA *Drama Club *Engineering Club*Fade to Black *Fine Arts Week *Forensics *French Club*French Honor Society *Gay, Straight Alliance (GSA) *Geography Olympiad *German Club *Girl's LaCrosse*HOSA *Japanese Club *Japanese Honor Society *Jazz West*Latin Club *Latin Honor Society *LMC Helpers *Math Team*Mock Trial *Anime Club *Stage Crews *National Honor Society*Native American Students *Pep Band *REACH Club *Regent Review Newspaper*Roof Over Our Heads *SADD *Science Fiction Club *Science Olympiad*Shoulders to Shoulders *Spanish Club *Spanish Honor Society *Speed Reading Club*Student Council *Students for an Informed Response *Swing Club*SYSSTAS (Strong Young Sisters Striving to Acheive Success) *Taiko Drumming Club *Tapestry *Tolkien Society* Ultimate Frisbee *Vocal Jazz *WSMA Solo/Ensemble Festival *Water Polo Club
*Winter Running Club *Women's Rugby *Yearbook *YBMU (Young Black Males United* Young Democrats Association
*Young Republicans"
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London School of Economics and Political Science
http://www.lse.ac.uk/Depts/language/CourseCodeExplanation.ht...
\" All Extra Curricular Courses have a 0 as the first digit in a course code. This means the course does not form part of any degree programme.\"
EXTRA-CURRICULAR SUBJECTS AND STUDIES
http://www.alinaam.org.za/social/studying_extra.htm
Malvern Girls\' College
http://www.mgc.worcs.sch.uk/pages/aboutus/facultyinformation...
\"Other languages are taught as extracurricular subjects and among these are Russian, Italian, Japanese, Chinese, Portuguese and Welsh.\"
http://www.madison.k12.wi.us/west/activity.htm
"Not all extracurricular activities are offered every year. These activities include:
*Amnesty International *Anime Club *Asian Club *AV Assistant *Chess Club*Men's and Women's Choirs *Class Council*Class Officers *Commencement Speakers *Crime Stoppers *Dance Courts*Debate Club *DECA *Drama Club *Engineering Club*Fade to Black *Fine Arts Week *Forensics *French Club*French Honor Society *Gay, Straight Alliance (GSA) *Geography Olympiad *German Club *Girl's LaCrosse*HOSA *Japanese Club *Japanese Honor Society *Jazz West*Latin Club *Latin Honor Society *LMC Helpers *Math Team*Mock Trial *Anime Club *Stage Crews *National Honor Society*Native American Students *Pep Band *REACH Club *Regent Review Newspaper*Roof Over Our Heads *SADD *Science Fiction Club *Science Olympiad*Shoulders to Shoulders *Spanish Club *Spanish Honor Society *Speed Reading Club*Student Council *Students for an Informed Response *Swing Club*SYSSTAS (Strong Young Sisters Striving to Acheive Success) *Taiko Drumming Club *Tapestry *Tolkien Society* Ultimate Frisbee *Vocal Jazz *WSMA Solo/Ensemble Festival *Water Polo Club
*Winter Running Club *Women's Rugby *Yearbook *YBMU (Young Black Males United* Young Democrats Association
*Young Republicans"
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London School of Economics and Political Science
http://www.lse.ac.uk/Depts/language/CourseCodeExplanation.ht...
\" All Extra Curricular Courses have a 0 as the first digit in a course code. This means the course does not form part of any degree programme.\"
EXTRA-CURRICULAR SUBJECTS AND STUDIES
http://www.alinaam.org.za/social/studying_extra.htm
Malvern Girls\' College
http://www.mgc.worcs.sch.uk/pages/aboutus/facultyinformation...
\"Other languages are taught as extracurricular subjects and among these are Russian, Italian, Japanese, Chinese, Portuguese and Welsh.\"
Peer comment(s):
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Marija Vujosevic Caric
46 min
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Hvala
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Alma Piric
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Hvala
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Ingrid Lovric
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Hvala
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Biljana G.
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Hvala
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V&M Stanković
: to u prevodu nedvosmisleno znači "VANNASTAVNE aktivnosti" (SAMO sekcije i sl.), a u pitanju piše: "... NASTAVNE aktivnosti" / P.S. Oxford OALD Dictionary: "extra-curricular - NOT PART of the usual course of work or studies at a school or college"
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Oxford Reference Dictionary kaze "extracurricular - (activity at a school or college) done in addition to the normal curriculum" - sto podrazumeva i nastavne i vannastavne aktivnosti, ali one koje nisu predvidjene standardnim planom i programom
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Vuk Vujosevic
16 h
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Hvala
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Ana Naglić
22 h
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Hvala
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Pavle Perencevic
: e.a. su VANnastavne aktivnosti, ono sto se, barem, u moje vreme zvalo "sekcije". Chess/drama club - sahovska/dramska sekcija
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"extracurricular" je nesto sto se u skoli obavlja van propisanog plana (nastavno ili nenastavno), pa ako su aktivnosti, kako je asker pitao, onda je "extracurricular activities", a ako su predmeti - "extrac. courses/subjects" (videti linkove u napomeni)
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Majda03
2 dana 20 h
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Hvala
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Discussion
Izborni - nije obavezno koji izaberes ali moras izabrati od ponudjenih sto je isto kao i u SAD = elective course;
Fakultativni mozes izabrati ali nemoras, ali fakultativni nastavni predmet postaje obavezan nakon �to je student izvr�io izbor to jest ocenjuje se.
Extracurricular activities - sto kolegica Jovanovic navadja i za sto sam joj zahvalna slaze se aktivnostima na nivou srednjih sa USA - http://www.collegeboard.com/article/0,3868,2-7-0-113,00.html