Glossary entry

Portuguese term or phrase:

A referência à República hoje pressupõe a democracia

English translation:

Any reference to a Republic now implies democracy, and is meaningless without it

Added to glossary by Mary Palmer
Jul 14, 2010 20:42
13 yrs ago
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Portuguese term

A referência à República hoje pressupõe a democracia

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Good afternoon! I just can't think of a good way to say this in English right now. Actually, I am way too tired to think! :P

Thanks a bunch!

Mas, ao falar dessas questões, é preciso evitar um equívoco. Se não falamos mais na luta entre republicanos e monarquistas, não há razão para opor República e democracia.

**A referência à República hoje pressupõe a democracia** e só faz sentido em seu interior. Contrariamente ao que ocorria em autores da Antiguidade e mesmo em muitos modernos, a República caracteriza uma maneira de organização das formas livres de governo e partilha os mesmos valores de base da democracia, como a liberdade e a igualdade entre cidadãos. Todo o problema está em como os defensores atuais da República compreendem esses conceitos e pretendem se servir deles para enfrentar os problemas gerados pela organização da vida democrática em torno do individualismo exacerbado de muitas sociedades atuais.

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Any reference to a Republic now implies democracy, and is meaningless without it

I'd go with a pretty literal translation here. "Democracy" in this passage is the concept, not just the form of government.

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Note added at 28 mins (2010-07-14 21:11:05 GMT)
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"meaningless without it" sounds somewhat ambiguous, though... you may want to think of a better solution for the latter half of the sentence :)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks Filipe!!"
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The Republic notion presumes Democracy nowadays

Educated guess
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Referring to a country as a Republic nowadays assumes that the aforementioned is a democracy

Suggestion... that´s the meaning of it. Maybe you can rephrase it with better English. :)

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assumes should have been "presumes"
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Nowadays OR today, whenever there is a reference to a republic democracy is assumed



Nowadays OR today, whenever there is a reference to a republic democracy is assumed
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Nowadays the reference to Republic pressupposes democracy.

pre·sup·pose (prs-pz)
tr.v. pre·sup·posed, pre·sup·pos·ing, pre·sup·pos·es
1. To believe or suppose in advance.
2. To require or involve necessarily as an antecedent condition.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/presupposes
Gaiety is a quality of ordinary men. Genius always presupposes some disorder in the machine.
Denis Diderot
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A reference to the Republic will today imply a democratic form of government.

Just another suggestion, which would seem reasonably idiomatic in English.
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