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Poll: How often do you lose potential jobs because the deadline is sooner than you can deliver?
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This forum topic is for the discussion of the poll question "How often do you lose potential jobs because the deadline is sooner than you can deliver?".

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neilmac
neilmac
Spanien
Local time: 06:40
Spanisch > Englisch
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Other Jul 18, 2013

Not "lose", but "refuse". If I reject a job because the deadline is ill thought out, implausible and hasty, then I don't consider it a loss.

It happens quite often - already once this week, an agency wanted 3K done by the next day (not an unreasonable request if the translator is sitting around twiddling his/her thumbs waiting for work offers to come in) and since I already have enough on my plate from regular clients, I refused. If they'd offered 2 days for delivery, I might have
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Not "lose", but "refuse". If I reject a job because the deadline is ill thought out, implausible and hasty, then I don't consider it a loss.

It happens quite often - already once this week, an agency wanted 3K done by the next day (not an unreasonable request if the translator is sitting around twiddling his/her thumbs waiting for work offers to come in) and since I already have enough on my plate from regular clients, I refused. If they'd offered 2 days for delivery, I might have accepted. However, they didn't, and as far as I'm concerned, the loss is theirs.
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Ty Kendall
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Vereinigtes Königreich
Local time: 05:40
Hebräisch > Englisch
I don't lose them, I turn them down Jul 18, 2013

Happens quite often. I simply won't accept a deadline that:
a) I simply can't deliver - not feasible
b) would require me killing myself/staying up all night/working ridiculous hours to meet

I learnt that lesson the hard way early on in my translation career where I found myself translating a technical elevator specification at 3am. Never again.

I don't consider these "lost opportunities" though, as there's nothing "opportune" about them.


 
Ty Kendall
Ty Kendall  Identity Verified
Vereinigtes Königreich
Local time: 05:40
Hebräisch > Englisch
Great minds think alike! Jul 18, 2013

neilmac wrote:

Not "lose", but "refuse". If I reject a job because the deadline is ill thought out, implausible and hasty, then I don't consider it a loss.

It happens quite often - already once this week, an agency wanted 3K done by the next day (not an unreasonable request if the translator is sitting around twiddling his/her thumbs waiting for work offers to come in) and since I already have enough on my plate from regular clients, I refused. If they'd offered 2 days for delivery, I might have accepted. However, they didn't, and as far as I'm concerned, the loss is theirs.




 
Christopher Schröder
Christopher Schröder
Vereinigtes Königreich
Mitglied (2011)
Schwedisch > Englisch
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All the time Jul 18, 2013

neilmac wrote:

Not "lose", but "refuse".


I was about to say the same thing - turning down work because you're too busy isn't the same thing as losing work because you're too slow or inflexible!


 
José Henrique Lamensdorf
José Henrique Lamensdorf  Identity Verified
Brasilien
Local time: 01:40
Englisch > Portugiesisch
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In stillem Gedenken
Customer service skills Jul 18, 2013

neilmac wrote:

Not "lose", but "refuse". If I reject a job because the deadline is ill thought out, implausible and hasty, then I don't consider it a loss.


I refuse them too, however translating customer service training courses taught me an important lesson:
The word clients hate most is "NO!"


So I don't tell them I can't do it; I tell them the earliest time when I can get it done.
It's the client's call: they can have me do it by then, or go look for someone else.
The point is that while they are searching, the clock won't stop ticking.
If my turnaround is acceptable, they'll take it!

I always prefer to deliver two days early than two hours late.


 
Balasubramaniam L.
Balasubramaniam L.  Identity Verified
Indien
Local time: 10:10
Mitglied (2006)
Englisch > Hindi
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Happened to me today Jul 18, 2013

I was travelling and this job came in which needed to be delivered while I would be in the train. I knew I couldn't do it, but I wrote them that I would be back in office only today, and would it be ok if it was delivered one day after their stipulated deadline? I could write this small email from my smartphone itself.

I got a reply that the job couldn't wait, but they were glad that I had informed them about my situation.

I think this was much better than an outright r
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I was travelling and this job came in which needed to be delivered while I would be in the train. I knew I couldn't do it, but I wrote them that I would be back in office only today, and would it be ok if it was delivered one day after their stipulated deadline? I could write this small email from my smartphone itself.

I got a reply that the job couldn't wait, but they were glad that I had informed them about my situation.

I think this was much better than an outright refusal. The latter could send out the signal that you don't want to do the job, or that you have taken offence at being send a job that you could not do, but how was the client to know this? Also clients feel better when they hear an accommodating reply than a curt or a blunt refusal.

As Jose says, it is always sound policy to keep your clients in good humour.
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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida  Identity Verified
Portugal
Local time: 05:40
Mitglied (2007)
Englisch > Portugiesisch
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Very rarely! Jul 18, 2013

I seem to be the lucky one here who very rarely has to deal with unreasonable deadlines!

 
Reed James
Reed James
Chile
Local time: 00:40
Mitglied (2005)
Spanisch > Englisch
It depends on which market Jul 18, 2013

I work for two very different markets: Spain and the U.S. The former is much more demanding marketing/market oriented and has tighter deadlines whereas the latter is more flexible, deals with more documents that are more likely to be filed without being read in their entirety (legal) and therefore gives me more leeway on all fronts.

So I would say virtually never for the U.S. and sometimes for Spain (Europe). After some experience, I generally turn down work if I suspect that I coul
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I work for two very different markets: Spain and the U.S. The former is much more demanding marketing/market oriented and has tighter deadlines whereas the latter is more flexible, deals with more documents that are more likely to be filed without being read in their entirety (legal) and therefore gives me more leeway on all fronts.

So I would say virtually never for the U.S. and sometimes for Spain (Europe). After some experience, I generally turn down work if I suspect that I could have problems meeting the deadline instead of being certain of that fact. Better safe than sorry.
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Nikki Scott-Despaigne  Identity Verified
Local time: 06:40
Französisch > Englisch
This one Jul 18, 2013

José Henrique Lamensdorf wrote:

neilmac wrote:

Not "lose", but "refuse". If I reject a job because the deadline is ill thought out, implausible and hasty, then I don't consider it a loss.


I refuse them too, however translating customer service training courses taught me an important lesson:
The word clients hate most is "NO!"


So I don't tell them I can't do it; I tell them the earliest time when I can get it done.
It's the client's call: they can have me do it by then, or go look for someone else.
The point is that while they are searching, the clock won't stop ticking.
If my turnaround is acceptable, they'll take it!

I always prefer to deliver two days early than two hours late.


This works. It's common sense.


 
Yetta Jensen Bogarde
Yetta Jensen Bogarde  Identity Verified
Dänemark
Local time: 06:40
Mitglied (2012)
Englisch > Dänisch
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Frequently, Jul 18, 2013

Unfortunately, all projects seem to be urgent!
I often have to decline a job (with regret), while in the middle of another, and often feel it as a loss.


 
Nicola Wood
Nicola Wood  Identity Verified
Österreich
Local time: 06:40
Mitglied (2010)
Deutsch > Englisch
Exactly as most people have said: Jul 18, 2013

If I cannot meet the deadline I either tell the customer the earliest that I can deliver, which often proves good enough, or, if I am really so busy that I can't come anywhere close to the deadline, I politely explain this to the customer (usually still giving them some idea of when I would be able to deliver - you never know;-)). Almost all of my work is from repeat clients and turning down the occasional job has never stopped them coming back to me yet, so I don't think it has often lost me wo... See more
If I cannot meet the deadline I either tell the customer the earliest that I can deliver, which often proves good enough, or, if I am really so busy that I can't come anywhere close to the deadline, I politely explain this to the customer (usually still giving them some idea of when I would be able to deliver - you never know;-)). Almost all of my work is from repeat clients and turning down the occasional job has never stopped them coming back to me yet, so I don't think it has often lost me work I could do, only avoided me taking on more than I can manage.Collapse


 
Mario Chavez (X)
Mario Chavez (X)  Identity Verified
Local time: 00:40
Englisch > Spanisch
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Well said Jul 18, 2013

Ty Kendall wrote:

Happens quite often. I simply won't accept a deadline that:
a) I simply can't deliver - not feasible
b) would require me killing myself/staying up all night/working ridiculous hours to meet

I learnt that lesson the hard way early on in my translation career where I found myself translating a technical elevator specification at 3am. Never again.

I don't consider these "lost opportunities" though, as there's nothing "opportune" about them.


For serious, seasoned translators, the phrase “potential job” is radioactive.


 
Sheila Wilson
Sheila Wilson  Identity Verified
Spanien
Local time: 05:40
Mitglied (2007)
Englisch
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New clients' deadlines are often unrealistic Jul 18, 2013

People who contact me through my profile here are often already running late and expecting me to wave a magic wand over their problems. I used to pull out all the stops for them, but there are many risks in jumping into a job for a new client without properly investigating them. I now reserve that type of response for existing clients. I rarely have to turn down a job for them based on the deadline, partly because they're prepared to negotiate, as they know I'll deliver when promised, and partly... See more
People who contact me through my profile here are often already running late and expecting me to wave a magic wand over their problems. I used to pull out all the stops for them, but there are many risks in jumping into a job for a new client without properly investigating them. I now reserve that type of response for existing clients. I rarely have to turn down a job for them based on the deadline, partly because they're prepared to negotiate, as they know I'll deliver when promised, and partly because I'm prepared to put myself out for them.Collapse


 
Marlene Blanshay
Marlene Blanshay  Identity Verified
Kanada
Local time: 00:40
Mitglied (2009)
Französisch > Englisch
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it's not a loss, since I made the decision! Jul 18, 2013

if the deadline is simply unrealistic, forget it. Just the other night I got a rush job for 9 am the next morning.It would have meant staying up till all hours. Also it was a new client and we hadn't even settled any payment details and it was very hard to contact her. If I have any doubts about things like that, i pass.

Also, time zones are an issue. If i get something for the same day in Euro time, it's not always possible for me.


 
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