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French term or phrase:
advenue
English translation:
instantiation / the advent of
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Francis Marche
Nov 3, 2014 10:28
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advenue
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From a text about divine knowledge in medieval Muslim philosophy:
***L’advenue*** du savoir dans la partie connaissante n’est pas un changement de cette partie connaissante elle-même, pas plus – dit Averroès – que ***l’advenue*** du prédicat : « à droite » pour la colonne, supprimant le précédent : « à gauche », n’est un changement dans la colonne même, de la colonne même, quand c’est Socrate, en réalité, qui s’est déplacé.
***L’advenue*** du savoir dans la partie connaissante n’est pas un changement de cette partie connaissante elle-même, pas plus – dit Averroès – que ***l’advenue*** du prédicat : « à droite » pour la colonne, supprimant le précédent : « à gauche », n’est un changement dans la colonne même, de la colonne même, quand c’est Socrate, en réalité, qui s’est déplacé.
Proposed translations
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| 3 +1 | instantiation / the advent of (divine) knowlege |
Francis Marche
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| 3 | embodied / inherent / intrinsic |
DLyons
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| 3 | acquisition, or rephrase |
Melissa McMahon
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Nov 9, 2014 16:56: Francis Marche Created KOG entry
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Francis Marche
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instantiation / the advent of (divine) knowlege
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instantiation_principle
"Within the framework of metaphysics, Avicenna introduces some original doctrines which, in virtue of their fundamental and all-encompassing character, are able to connect and unify the multiplicity of themes and sources of the Ilāhiyyāt. Most notorious among them is the distinction between essence and existence in created beings, which represents the real cornerstone of Avicenna's ontology. This distinction underlies many themes of Avicenna's metaphysics: it justifies, for instance, the difference between the primary concepts “thing” (i.e., “item having an essence”) and “existent” (i.e., “item having existence”) at the beginning of the work; it grounds the theory of universals (universality is an attribute that belongs to an essence not as such, but when this latter exists in the human mind, abstracted from the things in which it is *****instantiated*****); and it leads to the fundamental characterization of God as the only being that has no essence apart from existence, or that has an essence that is totally identical to existence."
"the emergence" could also work, from a layman standpoint
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http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/arabic-islamic-metaphysics...
"Within the framework of metaphysics, Avicenna introduces some original doctrines which, in virtue of their fundamental and all-encompassing character, are able to connect and unify the multiplicity of themes and sources of the Ilāhiyyāt. Most notorious among them is the distinction between essence and existence in created beings, which represents the real cornerstone of Avicenna's ontology. This distinction underlies many themes of Avicenna's metaphysics: it justifies, for instance, the difference between the primary concepts “thing” (i.e., “item having an essence”) and “existent” (i.e., “item having existence”) at the beginning of the work; it grounds the theory of universals (universality is an attribute that belongs to an essence not as such, but when this latter exists in the human mind, abstracted from the things in which it is *****instantiated*****); and it leads to the fundamental characterization of God as the only being that has no essence apart from existence, or that has an essence that is totally identical to existence."
"the emergence" could also work, from a layman standpoint
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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-11-03 16:25:12 GMT)
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http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/arabic-islamic-metaphysics...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks! I went for advent in the end. I'm not quite sure about "instatiation.""
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embodied / inherent / intrinsic
Def: Qui est entré dans le monde en s'unissant à un corps.
Ibn Rushd: "God’s knowledge is neither universal nor individual, although it is more like the latter than the former. Our knowledge is the result of what God has brought about, whereas God’s knowledge is produced by that which he himself has brought about, a reality which he has constructed. The organization of the universe is a reflection of God’s thought, and through thinking about his own being he is at the same time thinking about the organization of the world which mirrors that essence. He cannot really be identical with contingent and accidental phenomena, yet his essence is not totally unconnected with such phenomena. They represent contingent aspects of the necessary and essential relationships which he has established. To take an example, God knows which physical laws govern the universe, but he does not need to observe any moving objects to understand the principles of movement. Such observations are only appropriate objects of knowledge of sentient creatures with sensory apparatus and are far beneath the dignity of the creator."
Ibn Rushd: "God’s knowledge is neither universal nor individual, although it is more like the latter than the former. Our knowledge is the result of what God has brought about, whereas God’s knowledge is produced by that which he himself has brought about, a reality which he has constructed. The organization of the universe is a reflection of God’s thought, and through thinking about his own being he is at the same time thinking about the organization of the world which mirrors that essence. He cannot really be identical with contingent and accidental phenomena, yet his essence is not totally unconnected with such phenomena. They represent contingent aspects of the necessary and essential relationships which he has established. To take an example, God knows which physical laws govern the universe, but he does not need to observe any moving objects to understand the principles of movement. Such observations are only appropriate objects of knowledge of sentient creatures with sensory apparatus and are far beneath the dignity of the creator."
Peer comment(s):
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Germaine
: I doubt it. See III B. in http://atilf.atilf.fr/dendien/scripts/tlfiv5/visusel.exe?34;...
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Melissa McMahon
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acquisition, or rephrase
With acknowledgement of philgoddard.
This refers back to the internal/external relations problem raised in your earlier question
The knower acquiring knowledge is not a change in the knower itself, no more - Averroes says - than the acquisition of the predicate [by the subject].
This refers back to the internal/external relations problem raised in your earlier question
The knower acquiring knowledge is not a change in the knower itself, no more - Averroes says - than the acquisition of the predicate [by the subject].
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