Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

2 carrés de front

English translation:

two squares in front/ two forward-marching squares

Added to glossary by Conor McAuley
Apr 21, 2015 08:52
9 yrs ago
French term

2 carrés de front

French to English Other Military / Defense Fontenoy, dernière victoire d’un Roi de France
"L’attaque anglaise

Les bataillons anglais s’enfoncent dans la brèche et se forment en une colonne profonde de 2 carrés de front qui maintient un feu roulant de 3 côtés, tout en avançant, malgré les tirs qui les atteignent de flanc venant de Fontenoy et de la redoute d’Eu."

A battle in the 18th Century over Tournai, in modern-day Belgium.

Discussion

Conor McAuley (asker) Apr 21, 2015:
More context Later in the text I also have, "La colonne se fractionne en plusieurs carrés qui se replient lentement sous le feu français, sans se débander malgré les dernières charges de la cavalerie."

Proposed translations

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2 squares in front/ 2 forward marching squares

carré is a military formation, which is translated as a square in English
In my opinion carré de front should be 2 squares in front. However I am also tempted to translate it as 2 forward marching squares..
Note from asker:
See discussion for link.
Peer comment(s):

neutral B D Finch : It is quite wrong to use "2" rather than "two" here.
1 day 5 hrs
the french version uses 2, I have reproduced the same in En translation
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks Praxis, thanks to all! I do agree with BD about "2" though -- all the English language style guides I have read advise you to write out the numbers "one" to "nine" in letters, and then the rest in numbers, "10", "11", etc. It's only a small point but it's an important small point. "numbers Spell out from one to nine; numerals from 10 to 999,999; thereafter use m, bn or tn for sums of money, quantities or inanimate objects in copy, eg 5m tonnes of coal, 30bn doses of vaccine, £50tn; but million or billion for people or animals, eg 1 million people, 25 million rabbits, the world population is 7 billion, etc; in headlines always use m, bn or tn" http://www.theguardian.com/guardian-observer-style-guide-n"
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two battle squares

https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=1783370688
Brian Todd Carey, ‎Joshua Allfree, ‎John Cairns - 2006 - ‎History
... enemy, or it could become a solid column, capable of being directed either head-on ... infantrymen who were organized in battle squares sixteen deep and sixteen wide.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0803265867
Hans Delbr_ck - 1990 - ‎History
We observe this development in the armies of Charles V during his last war ... infantry battle squares and two "quadrata equitum agmina" ("square columns of ...



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Note added at 1 day2 hrs (2015-04-22 11:43:26 GMT)
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The term "de front" means battlefront and that this is an attacking formation. Hence, battle squares, i.e. not marching squares.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=1317899385
Michael Edward Mallett, ‎Christine Shaw - 2014 - ‎History
On 13 September, when the day was already well advanced, moving swiftly in three large battle squares, they marched towards the French.
Peer comment(s):

disagree praxisfrench : "de front" as per the context provided here refers to front line squares and not just battle squares which would be a more general term. These squares are forwarding marching contingents that constantly maintain a barrage of fire from three sides
19 hrs
You are wrong and it is bad manners to disagree with others to boost one's own (wrong) answer.
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