Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

actifs modelisés

English translation:

modeled active ingredients

Added to glossary by French Foodie
Dec 20, 2004 12:27
19 yrs ago
French term

actifs modelisés

French to English Marketing Cosmetics, Beauty skin care
Regarding a new skin care concept:

Au coeur de nos laboratoires de recherche une quete permanente pour identifier **les actifs, modelisés ou non,** qui seront reconnus et utilisés par les cellules cutanées pour un bénéfice sur le fonctionnement de la peau. Les actifs, acceptés et reconnus par les cellules de la peau, sont utilisés dans le métabolisme pour améliorer son fonctionnement et/ou rétablir une défaillance.

Modelized active agents just doesn't mean anything to me. Translation and/or explanation of what is going on here would be oh-so helpful :-) Thanks in advance.

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Dec 20, 2004:
Jane! Brilliant! I searched for modeled but didn't come across anything, but of course coupled with *active ingredients* you find all sorts of things on molecular modeling. Big thanks for great research. Cheers, Mara
Charlotte Allen Dec 20, 2004:
'Synthesized' (or -sised for a UK market) sounds slightly better than synthetic.
Non-ProZ.com Dec 20, 2004:
Hi Jane! Yes, now that you and Charlotte have gotten me on track with the meaning, the trick is to figure out how to say it without being off-putting. That's probably why the French went with modelis� as opposed to synth�tis�...
Anna Maria Augustine (X) Dec 20, 2004:
No, I don't think so. I've worked in the cosmetics industry and it's definitely what the product contains that will do the shaping - often used in plastic surgery too. But there are so many products on the market that do this. Good luck!
Non-ProZ.com Dec 20, 2004:
Hi Anna, thanks for your help, but I'm wondering, wouldn't your answer be more along the lines of "actifs mod�lisants"? I get the impression that the actifs are what are moulded, not what are doing the moulding...

Proposed translations

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naturally ocurring or synthesized active ingredients

is the idea.....

modellise= to synthesize ingredients= ie make them in a lab

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as in:
... non-sodium salt of potassium; the mineral potassium combined with sorbic
acid (synthesized or naturally occurring substance (from berries) ...
www.wholefoods.com/healthinfo/excipients.html - 20k - Cached - Similar pages

Cytokinins
... (meaning that the hormone is synthesized somewhere other than in a plant).
... Since that time, many more naturally occurring cytokinins have been ...
www.plant-hormones.info/cytokinins.htm - 19k - Cached - Similar pages

Natural Vs. Induced Radioactivity
... Nuclides such as 14C that are still being synthesized. ... 40K is one of only
five naturally occurring nuclides that contain both an odd number of ...
chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genchem/ topicreview/bp/ch23/natural.html - 15k - Cached - Similar pages

BUT: the marketing challenge is to say it some other way perhaps...because customers might think it is not \"natural\"...

so maybe: naturally occurring or redesigned [I?] as active ingredients

frankly, dunno

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MARA!!!!! I think it is MODELING....modeled and unmodeled active ingredients.....:)

Molecular modeling helps to optimize active ingredients. Hunting molecules in 3D ... Molecular modeling provides them with an effective tool in this search. ...
www.research.bayer.com/current_edition/ virtual_chemistry/page2992.htm - 19k - Cached - Similar pages


Analytic Methods


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FINAL: modeled and unmodeled active ingredients.....is fine...that way there is no natural/synthetic issue, right?
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shaping/moulding ingredients

The product contains agents or ingredients to shape the face/skin or to mould it.
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active elements, whether created in the laboratory or not...

I wonder whether what they're getting at is 'actifs' which have been 'modelled' in a laboratory, i.e. they are copies of natural elements found to be of benefit to the skin, which are then recreated in the lab synthetically. But I'm really just guessing.

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A concise way of expressing the above would be \'natural or synthetic\', although \'synthetic\' might not go down too well in the context!

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Sorry, I just reread your post - \'active agents\' is better than \'active elements\'.

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And Jane\'s \'active ingredients\' is, of course, better than either...
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