Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

barreau du retour

English translation:

return manifold

Added to glossary by gitacsurya (X)
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Oct 19, 2004 17:52
19 yrs ago
French term

axe du barreau du retour

French to English Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering underfloor heating
Afin de faciliter les branchements, la cote minimale par rapport au sol brut ne devra pas être inférieure à 0.5m (axe du barreau du retour).

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Oct 20, 2004:
Water based system Yes, water is used in this system.
Robert Frankling Oct 19, 2004:

VIVRACOME
Plancher chauffant hydraulique - Solution s�che
Tony M Oct 19, 2004:
Please can you confirm that this is indeed a WATER-based system?

Proposed translations

10 mins

the main return loop OR return of the pipe(s]

as in: for a loop system or not I suppose:
visiting our text version of this document.
... Q. What are the main components of an underfloor ... A. All the buried pipework in underfloor
heating systems should be ... The flow and return from each loop of pipe ...
www.rwc.co.uk/rwc/pdfs/training/QAdec02.pdf - Similar pages

[PDF] RELIANCE WATER CONTROLS TRAINING GUIDES
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Your browser may not have a PDF reader available. Google recommends visiting our text version of this document.
... depending on the injection and return method used ... temperature migration from the
main primary circuit ... the various types of underfloor heating system temperature ...
www.rwc.co.uk/rwc/pdfs/training/tgOCT03.pdf - Similar pages
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Wirsbo UK - Underfloor Heating Systems - Press
... Hunting Gate Construction plc were Main Contractors for the ... it with return water
from the underfloor heating loops to ... temperature of 43 o C (38 o C return). ...
www.wirsbo.co.uk/html_pressreleases/ psychiatric%20unit.html - 21k - Cached - Similar pages

Wirsbo UK - Underfloor Heating Systems - Press
... of the installation of a Wirsbo underfloor heating system to ... water is supplied to
the concealed heating loops from ...


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Note added at 12 mins (2004-10-19 18:05:24 GMT)
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barreau is a bar...but I don\'t get how that it part of this system..

anyway, main return bar...whatever that may mean...I thought underfloor heating was with loops...
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51 mins

centreline of the return header

Well, the 'axe' part seems logical enough to me, but the 'barreau' is, as Jane says, a bit of a puzzle.

If this is a water-based system (I presume?), then the pipes are probably connected back to some sort of common rail (as in diesel injection engines!), which, in the absence of brighter inspiration, I'd think of in terms of 'header'. So how do we get 'header' from barreau? Well, it IS only a guess, but given that the more usual word for a header would be 'rampe' (or maybe more often 'collecteur'), maybe there's some kind of analogy there? After all, in other terms a 'rampe' is a bar of steel! And I know that 'headers' are often referred to (in certain narrow contexts) as 'rails' too.

OK, OK, I know none of this holds water linguistically, but it's just 'stream of consciousness' stuff, which might just possibly lead somewhere in the end...

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Note added at 56 mins (2004-10-19 18:49:03 GMT)
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Could this be electrical? I note that the famous \'barreau de retour\' is 0.5 m above the underfloor level --- that seems rather high for plumbing, unless the screed is VERY thick! So might it be a rail or busbar for electrical connections? The similarity between \'barreau\' and \'barrette\' makes one wonder. Again, \'branchement\' wouldn\'t be inconsistent with electricity -- though sadly, \'retour\' probably would be! As ever, more context from Asker would help...

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Note added at 59 mins (2004-10-19 18:52:02 GMT)
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Well, in the light of your next question, which mentions \'tubes\', I have to assume that it is indeed water, and so my electrical idea is a non-starter. Pity!
Peer comment(s):

agree Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) : centerline sounds right to me..the centerline of the return pipe becuase in French the PIPE is an elipsis...retour de la canalization, or somesuch
12 mins
Thanks, Jane! In technical terms, 'return' is understood on its own even in English, the 'feed', 'pipe', 'leg' etc. being taken as read...
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2 hrs
French term (edited): axe de la barre de retour

axis of the return pipe of the loop.

I think there is a mistake.It's not "barreau" but barre, which means the return pipe of the loop. "axe da la barre de retour" = axis of the return pipe of the loop.
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1 hr

what sort of underfloor heating???

Since your previous question about "plot" implied that you area dealing with raised flooring, I wonder if your underfloor heating is not the type where electrical elements (heating cables) or hot water pipes are embedded in the concrete floor slab, but rather a system of ducted hot air routed through the floor void. In this case the hot air is distributed through grates in the floor and returned through more grates at other locations (one of my parents' houses in NZ had such a system - great for obtaining that "Marilyn Monroe" look!). In which case your "barreau" could, collectively, be the bar(s)of the return grille. Still, 50cm seems like an awfully high raised floor, though I guess if you are fitting large-diameter ducts in the plenum you want all the space you can get.

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Note added at 4 hrs 53 mins (2004-10-19 22:45:56 GMT)
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I see from Robert\'s site, which contains your very words, that it is not a hot-air but a hot-water system. I see it also gives some insight into what might be meant by \"dalles droites\", which raises further questions about \"dalles à plots\".
Peer comment(s):

agree Robert Frankling : ttp://www.acome.fr/fr/batiment/catalogues/vivracome/MEOVIVRA.pdf
23 mins
Well found, Sire Robert!
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