Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

attracteurs

English translation:

draw/pull/lure

Added to glossary by Miranda Joubioux (X)
Jul 18, 2012 14:44
11 yrs ago
French term

attracteurs

French to English Tech/Engineering Architecture
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Les espaces ouverts des grands ensembles, socle commun de ce territoire entre ville et campagne, deviennent le support d’une cité parc. Elle réunit les grands attracteurs métropolitains à la vie locale des quartiers, par des espaces publics permissifs.

Discussion

Miranda Joubioux (X) (asker) Jul 20, 2012:
I really don't like the word "attractors", although it may end up being used everywhere in this sort of context. It's a bit like translating "acteurs" as "actors", it just doesn't work. Thanks all the same.
Jocelyne Cuenin Jul 19, 2012:
Mind you, attractor and urbanism go together here: also as equivalent to node : http://www.csun.edu/~sd1229/690H/New Urbanism-Crime-and the ...
-OR: (physics) An attractor is a set towards which a dynamical system evolves over time. That is, points that get close enough to the attractor remain close even if slightly disturbed¨. This is a simple definition from Wikipedia. The geometric result of the attractor image is a fractal.
Conceptually, some cities or neighborhoods have ¨attractors¨, in which inhabitants are a complex system and no matter what, they keep close to a certain attractor.
Jocelyne Cuenin Jul 19, 2012:
Définition du dictionnaire Littré ATTRACTEUR, TRICE
adj.
Qui agit par attraction, qui exerce une attraction.
... certaines zones ... agissent comme des attracteurs.

Proposed translations

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draw/pull/lure (of the big city)

Attracteurs is a strange word choice; I guess it refers to the appeal of the big city (vibrant night life, employment, subcultures, specialized jobs/industries, etc).

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Thought of maybe adding "factors" to the mix: pull factors, draw factors.
Example sentence:

...combines the draw of the big city with the community feel/aspect of suburban life through shared public spaces.

...combines the lure of the big city with the community feel/aspect of suburban life through shared public spaces.

Peer comment(s):

agree Helen Shiner : draws get my vote
1 hr
Thanks Helen.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I used 'draw', 'lure' and 'attraction'. Difficult to attribute points here, but I felt Wolf deserved them for taking me in the right direction."
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attractions

big city attractions? Magnets??
Note from asker:
Why use "attracteur" when "attraction" exists in French? I had been thinking on the line of "pull factors", but it doesn't fit.
I see this word as similar to "acteurs"
Peer comment(s):

agree Michele Lemaire : I would use magnets
4 mins
Thanks
agree Kate Collyer : attractions, or: focal points?
6 mins
Thanks
agree Colin Rowe : (urban) magnets is what I was going to suggest, but my PC crashed... :-(
6 mins
Thanks
agree Jocelyne Cuenin : Magnet. Ai trouvé ceci (attracteur = aussi une personne) : Les personnages clés du grand territoire urbain étaient définis au début du XXe siècle comme des attracteurs des désirs émergents de la désorientation métropolitaine: la prostituée, la tenancière
1 hr
agree Bertrand Leduc
3 hrs
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33 mins

animators

I hope it helps
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19 hrs

attractivities

This is a term used in town planning contexts and, as a quick internet search will show, widely misused on badly translated websites where the non-native speaker translator failed to realise that it is a technical term.

www.casa.ucl.ac.uk/scatter/download/D5_D6_scatter_part2.pdf
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"The Helsinki model area is actually a large region that includes both urban and ... status as the capital city and home for industry headquarters, the economy of the .... the interaction of transport demand and supply at the Master Plan until the ...... for the transport subsystem and “regional attractivities” for the urban/regional ..."

www.dft.gov.uk/webtag/documents/expert/unit3.10.2.php
"For example, the IHT's Guidelines on Developing Urban Transport Strategies .... in the city-centre completes one trip from suburb to centre in the morning and one trip .... trip ends by purpose, Local Authority planning data for employees, retail and ... totals for doubly-constrained (to/from work) trip distribution, and attractivities ..."

As an example of misuse, where the writer should have used "attractions" and not "attractivities":

"The main attractivities of the city are very near to the Hotel: 1) Duomo ..."
http://florence.hotel-colorado.tobook.com /Italy/Hotels/Hotel-Colorado?citypname=Florence

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Another misuse:
";www.ownersdirect.co.uk › Hungary › Budapest › City of Budapest
"Outstanding located apartment for a city-holiday! ... in the neighbourhood, but a lot of interesting museums, attractivities, baths etc are on foot available, you"
Note from asker:
I have often seen this in a tourism context, but it is usually rendered by the word 'attractivité' in French
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